828 does pro hockey (imgs): Sony Cyber-shot Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review (2024)

Fellow fanatics,

I finally got a chance to test out the 828, in a low light action enviornment.

My daughter, and her bf, is home on Spring Break. She just loves hockey So, my wife picked up some tickets, for the 3 of us, to attend last night's game against Minnesota.

Our seats were in the upper deck, 3 rows from the back of the building. Affectionately called "nosebleed seats"....lol Here was our view, of the ice.

Wow!! This was going to be much tougher than shooting from 5 rows off the ice, as I did a few times with the 717 Oh well. Maybe the camera's speed would help make up for the distance. My biggest issue when shooting hockey with the 717, was it's shutterlag. It was very hard to time the release, so that it captured a shot, or a save.

The good news is that the 200mm (and 5mpxl smart zoom-240mm?) worked very well. And although the AF hunted a few times (mostly when there was lots of ice and not much contrast in the frame), the shutter lag was minimal.

What would I have done differently? Auto and flourescent wb worked OK (kind of reddish). But, i should have used manual wb. I figured I'd need ISO400, to get a combination of relatively fast speed (1/320-1/500) and a decent aperture (F.40 -F6.3, or so). Next time, I'll probably try opening the aperture up and shooting at ISO200.

Since the Sharks lost. The highlight of the night was watching the big shark's head (that the players skate unto the ice through) malfunction, while up in the rafters. It started spewing smoke midway through the game. Making it hard to see the ice...lol

Bottomline? This is one fast camera that, despite it's higher image noise (vis-a-vis the 717) is very capable of producing low light action images that, with some editing, can be printed @ 8x10, or slightly larger sizes

So if you get the chance to take your 828 (or 717) to a pro sporting event. Don't hesitate. You'll be glad you did

Steve

Those are impressive!

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I like to call it menopause mauve!

Steve,

Those are very impressive.

Olga

The best part is I had a ball shooting these Too bad the Sharks lost, or it would have been a great night.

I appreciate you taking the time to view these. My last couple of pic posts, have flown through the forum in record time....lol I guess that's what happens when no one posts to your thread

Thanks again

Steve

Ann McRaewrote:

Those are impressive!

ann
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Canadian Ann
Under construction:
http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com
http://www.pbase.com/canadian_ann
http://www.cs.duke.edu/~parr/photography/faq.html
I like to call it menopause mauve!

Thank you for taking the time to view and comment on these pics

As I mentioned to Ann, I had a ball shooting and post processing them. For me, that's what this photography stuff is all about. Enjoying oneself. If it results in some really nice pictures, so much the better

Thanks again Olga

Steve

Olga Johnsonwrote:

Steve,

Those are very impressive.

Olga

more folks spend time with the negative posts than giving feedback, good, bad or indifferent to some more positive things that the forum is offering.

Your pictures turned out very nice. They are really a lot better than I would have expected under the circ*mstances.

Olga

SMC2002wrote:
Thank you for taking the time to view and comment on these pics

As I mentioned to Ann, I had a ball shooting and post processing
them. For me, that's what this photography stuff is all about.
Enjoying oneself. If it results in some really nice pictures, so
much the better

Thanks again Olga

Steve

Olga Johnsonwrote:

Steve,

Those are very impressive.

Olga

SMC2002wrote:

Fellow fanatics,

I finally got a chance to test out the 828, in a low light action
enviornment.
My daughter, and her bf, is home on Spring Break. She just loves
hockey So, my wife picked up some tickets, for the 3 of us, to
attend last night's game against Minnesota.

Our seats were in the upper deck, 3 rows from the back of the
building. Affectionately called "nosebleed seats"....lol Here was
our view, of the ice.

Wow!! This was going to be much tougher than shooting from 5 rows
off the ice, as I did a few times with the 717 Oh well.
Maybe the camera's speed would help make up for the distance. My
biggest issue when shooting hockey with the 717, was it's
shutterlag. It was very hard to time the release, so that it
captured a shot, or a save.

The good news is that the 200mm (and 5mpxl smart zoom-240mm?)
worked very well. And although the AF hunted a few times (mostly
when there was lots of ice and not much contrast in the frame), the
shutter lag was minimal.

What would I have done differently? Auto and flourescent wb worked
OK (kind of reddish). But, i should have used manual wb. I
figured I'd need ISO400, to get a combination of relatively fast
speed (1/320-1/500) and a decent aperture (F.40 -F6.3, or so).
Next time, I'll probably try opening the aperture up and shooting
at ISO200.

Since the Sharks lost. The highlight of the night was watching the
big shark's head (that the players skate unto the ice through)
malfunction, while up in the rafters. It started spewing smoke
midway through the game. Making it hard to see the ice...lol

Bottomline? This is one fast camera that, despite it's higher
image noise (vis-a-vis the 717) is very capable of producing low
light action images that, with some editing, can be printed @ 8x10,
or slightly larger sizes

So if you get the chance to take your 828 (or 717) to a pro
sporting event. Don't hesitate. You'll be glad you did

Steve

Hi SMC2002,

Hey, it looks like we were at the same game! I left midway through the 3rd period (kiddies had to go to bed), so I didn't see the last Sharks goal.

Great pictures you took, especially with the puck frozen in air like that! What shutter speed were you using? That 828 sure must be a fast camera. How did you get those shots, did you focus on the goal and do a burst when the action got hot?

I was also in the nosebleed section, off to one corner, about 10 rows from the wall - at least you were aligned with center ice!

I took some pictures of the game, too, with my 6490. I couldn't use a shutter faster than 1/180 (hence some bluriness), but I am happy with the results. I posted some pics here, if interested. Only processing was auto levels.

Again, great pictures!

jm_mac

SMC2002wrote:

Fellow fanatics,

I finally got a chance to test out the 828, in a low light action
enviornment.
My daughter, and her bf, is home on Spring Break. She just loves
hockey So, my wife picked up some tickets, for the 3 of us, to
attend last night's game against Minnesota.

Our seats were in the upper deck, 3 rows from the back of the
building. Affectionately called "nosebleed seats"....lol Here was
our view, of the ice.

Wow!! This was going to be much tougher than shooting from 5 rows
off the ice, as I did a few times with the 717 Oh well.
Maybe the camera's speed would help make up for the distance. My
biggest issue when shooting hockey with the 717, was it's
shutterlag. It was very hard to time the release, so that it
captured a shot, or a save.

The good news is that the 200mm (and 5mpxl smart zoom-240mm?)
worked very well. And although the AF hunted a few times (mostly
when there was lots of ice and not much contrast in the frame), the
shutter lag was minimal.

What would I have done differently? Auto and flourescent wb worked
OK (kind of reddish). But, i should have used manual wb. I
figured I'd need ISO400, to get a combination of relatively fast
speed (1/320-1/500) and a decent aperture (F.40 -F6.3, or so).
Next time, I'll probably try opening the aperture up and shooting
at ISO200.

Since the Sharks lost. The highlight of the night was watching the
big shark's head (that the players skate unto the ice through)
malfunction, while up in the rafters. It started spewing smoke
midway through the game. Making it hard to see the ice...lol

Bottomline? This is one fast camera that, despite it's higher
image noise (vis-a-vis the 717) is very capable of producing low
light action images that, with some editing, can be printed @ 8x10,
or slightly larger sizes

So if you get the chance to take your 828 (or 717) to a pro
sporting event. Don't hesitate. You'll be glad you did

Steve

...knew you'd be getting good results - imagine what you could do with a "press pass" hehehehe

great shots, thanks for the detail comments, too.

you rock.

now, it's your turn to do the same!

aw

jm_macwrote:

Hi SMC2002,

Hey, it looks like we were at the same game! I left midway through
the 3rd period (kiddies had to go to bed), so I didn't see the last
Sharks goal.

I wanted to leave after it got to be 4-1. But, my daughter begged me to stay. As things worked out, I'm glad we did

Great pictures you took, especially with the puck frozen in air
like that! What shutter speed were you using? That 828 sure must
be a fast camera. How did you get those shots, did you focus on
the goal and do a burst when the action got hot?

I'm at work, so I can't check the EXIF data. But, I was doing almost all of my shooting at 1/400, or 1/500. Since I was using F4.0-F6.3, I could have gotten 1/1000. Or, I could have lowered the ISO to 200. Next time

I was concentrating (at full optical zoom) on the area in front of the net. I found that it's just too hard to try to follow a player and get any sharp shots (or catch the action).

I was also in the nosebleed section, off to one corner, about 10
rows from the wall - at least you were aligned with center ice!

My daughters boy friend thought the seats were great. I agree that if you're going to be in the nosebleed section, it's nice to be center ice

I took some pictures of the game, too, with my 6490. I couldn't
use a shutter faster than 1/180 (hence some bluriness), but I am
happy with the results. I posted some pics here, if interested.
Only processing was auto levels.

I will definitely check them out, once I get home. This LCD monitor just doesn't display photos very well.

Again, great pictures!

Thanks Jm_Mac, I'm sure I will enjoy your shots too Did you get one of the guy who fell down because he had a stick stuck in his skate?...LOL That was an ESPN moment.

Steve
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http://www.pbase.com/slo2k
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SMC2002wrote:

jm_macwrote:

Hi SMC2002,

Hey, it looks like we were at the same game! I left midway through
the 3rd period (kiddies had to go to bed), so I didn't see the last
Sharks goal.

I wanted to leave after it got to be 4-1. But, my daughter begged
me to stay. As things worked out, I'm glad we did

Great pictures you took, especially with the puck frozen in air
like that! What shutter speed were you using? That 828 sure must
be a fast camera. How did you get those shots, did you focus on
the goal and do a burst when the action got hot?

I'm at work, so I can't check the EXIF data. But, I was doing
almost all of my shooting at 1/400, or 1/500. Since I was using
F4.0-F6.3, I could have gotten 1/1000. Or, I could have lowered
the ISO to 200. Next time

I was shooting at ISO 80, 100, and 200. Maybe I should have tried 400 - like you said, maybe next time! With all that action going on, it's difficult to think of everycombination of shutter, aperture, iso, zoom that could get you the shot. Egad, I have a headache.

I was concentrating (at full optical zoom) on the area in front of
the net. I found that it's just too hard to try to follow a player
and get any sharp shots (or catch the action).

I was also in the nosebleed section, off to one corner, about 10
rows from the wall - at least you were aligned with center ice!

My daughters boy friend thought the seats were great. I agree that
if you're going to be in the nosebleed section, it's nice to be
center ice

I took some pictures of the game, too, with my 6490. I couldn't
use a shutter faster than 1/180 (hence some bluriness), but I am
happy with the results. I posted some pics here, if interested.
Only processing was auto levels.

I will definitely check them out, once I get home. This LCD
monitor just doesn't display photos very well.

Again, great pictures!

Thanks Jm_Mac, I'm sure I will enjoy your shots too Did you
get one of the guy who fell down because he had a stick stuck in
his skate?...LOL That was an ESPN moment.

LOL, no I didn't get that guy. I didn't get pictures of the Shark who fell into the Wild net and got penalized for it, either! But I did get that nasty fight at center ice. I thought we would see some blood on the ice, the way that Wild player was pounding on the Shark. Thankfully, no blood!

I see your from mpls/mn
blaine here!
Was it easy to take action shots with the 828?
I'm a 717 owner, and action shots are tough.

SMC2002wrote:

Fellow fanatics,

I finally got a chance to test out the 828, in a low light action
enviornment.
My daughter, and her bf, is home on Spring Break. She just loves
hockey So, my wife picked up some tickets, for the 3 of us, to
attend last night's game against Minnesota.

Our seats were in the upper deck, 3 rows from the back of the
building. Affectionately called "nosebleed seats"....lol Here was
our view, of the ice.

Wow!! This was going to be much tougher than shooting from 5 rows
off the ice, as I did a few times with the 717 Oh well.
Maybe the camera's speed would help make up for the distance. My
biggest issue when shooting hockey with the 717, was it's
shutterlag. It was very hard to time the release, so that it
captured a shot, or a save.

The good news is that the 200mm (and 5mpxl smart zoom-240mm?)
worked very well. And although the AF hunted a few times (mostly
when there was lots of ice and not much contrast in the frame), the
shutter lag was minimal.

What would I have done differently? Auto and flourescent wb worked
OK (kind of reddish). But, i should have used manual wb. I
figured I'd need ISO400, to get a combination of relatively fast
speed (1/320-1/500) and a decent aperture (F.40 -F6.3, or so).
Next time, I'll probably try opening the aperture up and shooting
at ISO200.

Since the Sharks lost. The highlight of the night was watching the
big shark's head (that the players skate unto the ice through)
malfunction, while up in the rafters. It started spewing smoke
midway through the game. Making it hard to see the ice...lol

Bottomline? This is one fast camera that, despite it's higher
image noise (vis-a-vis the 717) is very capable of producing low
light action images that, with some editing, can be printed @ 8x10,
or slightly larger sizes

So if you get the chance to take your 828 (or 717) to a pro
sporting event. Don't hesitate. You'll be glad you did

Steve

Nice shots! Here is my go at it.

Roger C. Levitwrote:

Blainewrote:

I see your from mpls/mn
blaine here!

Hi Blaine,

Actually, this game was played in San Jose. I'd sure love to visit Mn, though (just not in the Winter....lol).

Was it easy to take action shots with the 828?

Nothing comes easy to me I had, previously, shot a few hundred hockey shots, with the 717. So I pretty much knew what I wanted to do. The 717 images have less noise in them. The 828 focuses faster and the shutter lag is almost imperceptable. That's how I was able to catch these, and other, shots. We were about 150 feet, or so, away. Trying to see (through the EVF) when the puck was around the net was the toughest part.

I'm a 717 owner, and action shots are tough.

Yes they are. But, they are so tough, that when you get some decent results, you can really feel that you've accomplish something No disrespect intended, but if you have a D2H, or a 10D, or even a 300D, with fast glass, this type of shooting is much easier. I imagine the post processing is too....lol

The 717 is slower on the release. But, it does do a good job at capturing hockey shots, IMO. Now if the 828 only had the 717's noise levels, we'd be all set

http://www.pbase.com/slo2k/717_sharks

Steve

ChristinHwrote:

Nice shots! Here is my go at it.

SMC2002wrote:

ChristinHwrote:

Nice shots! Here is my go at it.

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